Comments on: To what degree is Rock music about rebellion? http://collective.musiced.net/2006/07/26/to-what-degree-is-rock-music-about-rebellion/ A Music Education Blog Collective Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:01:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.1 By: etobias http://collective.musiced.net/2006/07/26/to-what-degree-is-rock-music-about-rebellion/#comment-366 etobias Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:51:45 +0000 http://collective.musiced.net/2006/07/26/to-what-degree-is-rock-music-about-rebellion/#comment-366 Great questions Joe and interesting comments by Ben and Owen. I'll eventually respond to some of them but in the meantime it's worth reading <a target="_blank" href="http://feministing.com/archives/005432.html">this post</a> over at the blog "feministing". It touches on the "rebellious music" and "establishment" issue you mentioned but in the context of society and the music industry. Which I think relate directly to the points you brought up -- but I'll post on that later. Great questions Joe and interesting comments by Ben and Owen. I’ll eventually respond to some of them but in the meantime it’s worth reading this post over at the blog “feministing”. It touches on the “rebellious music” and “establishment” issue you mentioned but in the context of society and the music industry. Which I think relate directly to the points you brought up — but I’ll post on that later.

]]> By: Owen Bradley http://collective.musiced.net/2006/07/26/to-what-degree-is-rock-music-about-rebellion/#comment-365 Owen Bradley Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:42:04 +0000 http://collective.musiced.net/2006/07/26/to-what-degree-is-rock-music-about-rebellion/#comment-365 This is a very relevant post. I am seeing the future of music education as moving further towards popular music. In the "old days" aspiring young musicians didn't stand a chance of being published because of record company domniation. Now it's point-click-publish and you are a celebrity to at least a small number of loyal fans. Students are interested in this and see it as something they want to pursue- what a great way to teach musical concepts in a relevant way! I suppose my kids would think that whatever music we studied was "tainted" after we dissected it, but I'm sure the next day they would find something cooler.... This is a very relevant post. I am seeing the future of music education as moving further towards popular music. In the “old days” aspiring young musicians didn’t stand a chance of being published because of record company domniation. Now it’s point-click-publish and you are a celebrity to at least a small number of loyal fans.

Students are interested in this and see it as something they want to pursue- what a great way to teach musical concepts in a relevant way! I suppose my kids would think that whatever music we studied was “tainted” after we dissected it, but I’m sure the next day they would find something cooler….

]]> By: Ben Whelan-Morin http://collective.musiced.net/2006/07/26/to-what-degree-is-rock-music-about-rebellion/#comment-364 Ben Whelan-Morin Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:03:12 +0000 http://collective.musiced.net/2006/07/26/to-what-degree-is-rock-music-about-rebellion/#comment-364 I don't really have any answers to your questions, but the questions themselves are highly interesting to me. I work in an urban district and have easily been able to incorporate jazz topics into my curriculum and, in conjunction with academic teachers, emphasize the social importance of jazz, especially that of the Harlem Rennaissance. Jazz is easy to do nowadays because it is considered more "main stream" and "conformist" of sorts. But, its origins are really anything but that... But what about "popular" musics of today? There's no doubt that it an society are invariably intertwined. Certainly most of today's young people find more relationship to their lives in hip hop, heavy metal, and other "questionable" types of music. I think there needs to be an understanding of this kind of music and what its musical structure and purpose in society can relate to other music. How does one then incorporate that into a school curriculum in a way that is musically sound (no pun intended)? I don't know the answer. I don’t really have any answers to your questions, but the questions themselves are highly interesting to me.
I work in an urban district and have easily been able to incorporate jazz topics into my curriculum and, in conjunction with academic teachers, emphasize the social importance of jazz, especially that of the Harlem Rennaissance. Jazz is easy to do nowadays because it is considered more “main stream” and “conformist” of sorts. But, its origins are really anything but that…
But what about “popular” musics of today? There’s no doubt that it an society are invariably intertwined. Certainly most of today’s young people find more relationship to their lives in hip hop, heavy metal, and other “questionable” types of music. I think there needs to be an understanding of this kind of music and what its musical structure and purpose in society can relate to other music. How does one then incorporate that into a school curriculum in a way that is musically sound (no pun intended)?
I don’t know the answer.

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